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Update: Council in Awkward Spot After Shacknai Mom Makes Her Plea

DIna Shacknai makes brief statement before council members as she continues to seek a new investigation in the death of Max, 6.

Update, 11:25 p.m. Sept. 18.

The Shacknai/Zahau worlds continue to turn, somehow in concert, as they remain linked by the Spreckels mansion and whatever happened there in 2011.

Oddly, after all the grief and strife, at the core the families have something in common: They want the investigations into the deaths of Rebecca Zahau, route: {:controller=>"articles", :action=>"show", :id=>"zahau-attorney-submits-new-files-to-investigators"} --> and  to

BBL September 29, 2012 at 05:31 PM
Why wasn't his bed slept in? Why was he up all night? What was he doing all night in place of sleeping? Tons of questions; too bad they didn't bother with another polygraph since they lied aboutt the first one.
Red Cups September 29, 2012 at 05:53 PM
They were not "loops" they were knots. The gag could not easily be removed. Her neck was not broke as it should have been from a long drop hang. The bed did not move as it should have for a long drop hang. The message on the door was written by two people. There was no voicemail, no word Max had taken a turn for the worse. Fingerprints and DNA was not taken from others. Multiple witnesses were NOT called back, those witnesses had to go to the police department on their own. Funny they say these people were not credible, there were two of them from opposite sides of that house, they are both outstanding law abiding citizens and both reported the exact same thing. Those are FACTS!
BBL October 01, 2012 at 06:33 PM
Why wasn't Adam's bed slept in? Why was he up all night? What was he doing all night in place of sleeping? Tons of questions; too bad they didn't bother with another polygraph since they lied about the first one.
Andrea Kalfas October 02, 2012 at 02:04 PM
Andrea We can speculate until we are "blue in the face", and I dislike repeating myself, BUT, why has "little brother" Adam remained so invisible through this investigation? We are hearing and have heard very little about him... sounds suspicious since he discovered the body of Rebecca and brought her down before calling the authority? Whatever happened to tampering with the scene? Does it really sound right?
Dr. Sue, October 04, 2012 at 03:01 AM
That is most ignorant comment. It was Rebecca's fingerprints all over the rope and everywhere else in that room; on the paint, the paintbrushes, the balcony, ect., she forgot to wipe off the paint from her hip after she printed her 3rd person singular message on the door, before replacing her own hand back into the loose loops in the restraint. No killer wore gloves, no other killer was there, but the woman herself. She killed herself so get over it.
Dr. Sue, October 04, 2012 at 03:07 AM
So full of denial and irrelevant information. The Sheriffs dept and COPD are so disgusted with these ignorant comments. This is exactly why they each refuse to open either case.
Dr. Sue, October 04, 2012 at 03:29 AM
Physical evidence suggests that Rebecca Zahau loosely bound her own ankles and wrists, looped a rope around her neck and hanged herself from the balcony of her boyfriend's home.
Bake Shalome October 09, 2012 at 08:24 AM
Sue, "Suggest" Is not proof... If this was your loved one and there was never in the history of man been a suicide like this wouldn't you want it "PROVEN"?
Bake Shalome October 09, 2012 at 08:28 AM
Sue, Do you represent The Sheriffs dept and COPD? If you do than please identify yourself with name and position. Otherwise do not claim to know what these departments think or feel about the public commentary. ALSO!! Why not answer the damn question that BBL asked? Why wasn't Adam's bed slept in? Why was he up all night? What was he doing all night in place of sleeping? Those are all legitimate and relevant questions that have been ignored and continue to go unanswered.
BBL October 09, 2012 at 04:28 PM
So Sue, can you answer my question? I think it is an honest question. Adam got back to the mansion around 8ish and went to the guest house. Why didn't the bed look slept in? Why wasn't evidence, like the underwear in the guest house trash can, examined? I can see why the Sheriff's dept are disgusted with the comments, I'm sure they embarrass the heck out of them.
BBL October 10, 2012 at 12:18 AM
Sue, please provide a link or a source for where you got that the rope was "loosely bound". I know "looped" is the new catch phrase being tested out, but there is no proof. Her ankles were tightly bound, the t shirt was tightly wrapped 3 times around her neck (and over her hair), and no where have they shown how her hands were bound. If they were loosely bound, and you like to suggest, the rope would have fallen off during her fall/struggle!
Dr. Sue, October 11, 2012 at 06:49 PM
Imposters on the site......with the most ignorant comments!
Dr. Sue, October 11, 2012 at 06:55 PM
Keep guessing.....all your posts are incorrect, invalid and do not deserve any further responses.
Dr. Sue, October 12, 2012 at 03:56 AM
Lol!!!
jessica October 17, 2012 at 05:54 AM
Andrea- with all due respect, it goes both ways. Why has "little sister" XZ remained so invisible throughout the investigation into Max's death? It's very suspicious because she is the only person alive who was there to know what really happened to Max. So where was she? Upstairs, Downstairs, blowdrying her dry hair while Max was upstairs cleaning his room, downstairs in the kitchen, and fell from his room(these are just some of the many stories told.) Rebecca heroically performed C.P.R. but on the ambulance report it said "no C.P.R. was performed." She gave the wrong address to where she lived, and any story you choose to believe of the many that she told does not explain Max's presentation to the first hospital. "Three can keep a secret if two are dead."
Dr. Sue, October 17, 2012 at 03:11 PM
Are you some sort of a defense lawyer or just a wannabe? Provide a link/identify yourself and your position. Those who defend child killers are equally as guilty. Judgment day is coming. Why don't you go ask Adam, yourself, which bed/couch/chair or floor, he slept on that night? Some people make their beds and some people sleep on top of the covers. Either way, you have so many irrelevant questions, so go ask him yourself; cut the deviation from the subject. The girl hanged herself.
Dr. Sue, October 21, 2012 at 04:36 AM
BBL, cut the mind games and the intimidation strategies; they're useless........As you know, by the revealed demonstration, the loops were loose enough for the girl to slip her own hand in and out, but not to the extreme as you suggested to where the loops would have fallen off on her way down as she rolled herself over the balcony rail, without a struggle. What are you trying to pull with your strategies? Provide links? Your defenses are unrealistic and you know it. If you think you are so brilliant then go figure out the answers yourself.
Dr. Sue, October 21, 2012 at 04:49 AM
That was no accident. Six year old kids do not fall over staircases and end up with severe skull fractures, several other injuries on different angles of the head, neck and back. Women do not hang themselves bound gagged and naked, except for Rebecca Zahau.....the first one in history who killed herself on her boyfriend's property after she found out that she was reported to Child Protective Services and was about to be caught.
Dr. Sue, October 21, 2012 at 05:02 AM
lol
Dr. Sue, November 06, 2012 at 05:51 AM
People who defend child killers are equally as sick!!!
jessica November 06, 2012 at 03:26 PM
Go Sue:) Awesome posts!!!
Hannah November 09, 2012 at 07:23 PM
The woman was murdered because she was blamed for the kid's accident.
BBL November 12, 2012 at 06:00 PM
Yes sue and jessica, quite the awesomely inane posts! Sue, I have no idea what intimidation you are talking about. I'm just pointing out discrepancies, like the fact that the rope used for the demonstration wasn't even of the same type of rope that bound Rebecca's hands. Or, maybe you don't like that fact that Dina's experts provided no proof that Rebecca did anything to harm Max and you don't like me pointing that out? It isn't my defenses that are unrealistic...
jessica November 16, 2012 at 03:12 PM
@BBL- You don't like us pointing out that Mary's experts have provided no proof that Rebecca did not kill herself. The question is why did she kill herself?
Dr. Sue, November 16, 2012 at 11:10 PM
The Sheriff's Department actually produced a video re-enactment of how they believe Rebecca tied her own hands, which they showed at the press conference that covered details of their investigation. Based on how the ropes were twisted into large loops around her wrists, it would not have taken an acrobat or the ghost of Harry Houdini to tie her own hands. a detailed account of their investigation, evidence, and conclusions about her death: the black paint from her door note was found on her hand and body; there was a small knife and a large knife in the bedroom - her fingerprints were found on the small one and her DNA was found on the large one; her DNA was found on the bed, the rope, the balcony door, and the bedroom door; her bare feet and toe impressions were found on the dusty balcony floor; changes in the dust on the balcony railing were consistent with her body going over it, as were the scrapes on her back and legs from hitting the large plants below. No other footprints, fingerprints, or DNA that was not hers was found at the scene. There were no signs of a fight, struggle, or sexual assault in the bedroom.
Dr. Sue, November 16, 2012 at 11:13 PM
BBL it’s evident that you come from limited means, otherwise, you would know that unless those whom are celebrities, the wealthy, do not wish to be in the spotlight. This includes anyone who would commit a homicide on his/her own property. It is also evident that you are extremely lazy. You do not take the initiative to seek answers yourself yet continue to call on others to “provide links” for you. You most certainly ARE in denial and unrealistic!
Sally B. April 08, 2013 at 12:31 AM
It should be re-opened. But it's certainly inadvisable of Dina to so openly admit her motive to want revenge on Becky!
Dr. Sue, May 28, 2013 at 01:27 AM
The messages are out on many other posts about: There are "HATE BEGETS HATE" and "RACIST" IMPOSTERS that are FRAUDULENTLY claiming that Rebecca was murdered, but fingerprints and DNA proved she killed herself. Read all about it!!!!!! Rebecca committed the world's most bizarre suicide by hanging herself. She removed her clothes, showered, and then she simply looped the rope around her ankles, hands and neck, wrapped a t-shirt around her neck and partially bit into it. She used one hand to paint a message on the door to her sugar daddy with a paint brush and black paint; she then replaced her own hand back into the loop from behind and managed to transfer paint to hip as she replaced her hand back into the restraint. She hopped over to the balcony and rolled over to her death. Rebecca was light-weight, the frame of the bed was very heavy and the carpet fibers limited the movement of the bed. It was not that difficult for the investigators to conclude that she committed suicide. No screams were reported the night Rebecca committed suicide. No one else entered the house; there were no signs of any struggle. People DO NOT murder like this. She really was a Fkd up individual to kill a child and kill herself in the nude for public viewing. No further proof needed.. DNA and fingerprints say it all. Rebecca assaulted/bludgeoned Max and she hanged herself in the nude out of guilt. Rebecca's CASE WILL REMAIN CLOSED.
Dr. Sue, May 28, 2013 at 01:38 AM
The messages are out on many other posts about: There are "HATE BEGETS HATE" and "RACIST" IMPOSTERS that are FRAUDULENTLY claiming that Rebecca was murdered, but fingerprints and DNA proved she killed herself. Read all about it!!!!!! Rebecca committed the world's most bizarre suicide by hanging herself. She removed her clothes, showered, and then she simply looped the rope around her ankles, hands and neck, wrapped a t-shirt around her neck and partially bit into it. She used one hand to paint a message on the door to her sugar daddy with a paint brush and black paint; she then replaced her own hand back into the loop from behind and managed to transfer paint to hip as she replaced her hand back into the restraint. She hopped over to the balcony and rolled over to her death. Rebecca was light-weight, the frame of the bed was very heavy and the carpet fibers limited the movement of the bed. It was not that difficult for the investigators to conclude that she committed suicide. No screams were reported the night Rebecca committed suicide. No one else entered the house; there were no signs of any struggle. People DO NOT murder like this. She really was a Fkd up individual to kill a child and kill herself in the nude for public viewing. No further proof needed.. DNA and fingerprints say it all. Rebecca assaulted/bludgeoned Max and she hanged herself in the nude out of guilt. Rebecca's CASE WILL REMAIN CLOSED.
Dr. Sue, May 29, 2013 at 05:26 PM
Mother of Shacknai Boy: One of Two People at Mansion Killed Him Justice for Max Shacknai!!! Two knives and two paint brushes, one for Rebecca and one for Xena. WAS ABSolutely DOPING!!!!

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